【评鉴转帖翻译】EB上Blakbird的8070评鉴 科技系列

littleman 2011-3-1 14468

今天在EB看到8070的评鉴,觉得很有深度,征得作者同意之后,抽空简单翻译了下。原帖在此: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=52566&st=0 如果有什么专业术语用得不对的请不吝指点。 [right]8070说明书这里下载[/right] [right]http://www.lelezhen.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=12019[/right] Naturally I had to go out and buy the latest Technic Supercar the moment I heard some stores had it, and I put it together the same night. I tried to remember to take pictures as I went along, but I was pretty excited. So without further ado, here is my review of the Supercar II. Note that I am using lo res photos here, but you can get high res versions on my Brickshelf account (once moderated). 一听到店里这款最新的Technic Supercar上架,我想都没想就去买了回来,而且当晚就搭好了。期间我尽量让自己停下来拍照,但还是止不住兴奋;) ,不啰嗦了,下面是我对这辆第二代Supercar的评鉴,你可以去我的Brickshlelf看高分辨率图片: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=463445 Vital Statistics Set #: 8070 Set Name: Supercar Year Released: 2011 # of parts: 1281 Size: Big Price Paid: $120 USD 基本指标: 编号:8070 名字:Supercar 超级跑车 发行年份:2011 零件数目:1281 尺寸:大型 价格:120美金 Lets start with some pictures of the box. As usual, this box is much larger than necessary, being no more than 25-30% full by volume. The box is of the recent "destroy it to open it" variety. I try to destroy mine as lightly as possible by cutting the rear flap with a razor blade. The front of the box shows the main model and then the functions within the orange Power Functions band on the right. The back of the box shows the alternate hot rod model. There is no parts list on the outside of the box. 先从盒子开始。跟平时一样,盒子比实际需要还大得多,按容量算的话还不够25~30%满。盒子是最近那种“开盒即破坏”的类型,我用剃刀切开后盖来尽量减轻破坏。盒子正面是主造型,电机功能展示在右边。背面是次造型的改装车,盒子上没有零件列表。 As a matter of interest, there are no pictures of the back of the car on either the box or in any of the marketing materials. It turns out there is a reason for this. 很有趣地,不管是盒子还是宣传资料上都没有车的背面图片,这当然是有原因的。:cool: 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Inside the box are about a dozen poly bags, instructions, and a sticker sheet. This is the first set I have purchased which uses the new method of putting cardboard in with the instructions. I appreciated this very much since it resulted in pristine instructions. The instructions are divided into 3 books for the primary model only. As with most current instructions, they are broken down into truly tiny steps, some with only a couple of friction pins to install. The model could easily have been put into one book. The instructions for the alternate model are also 3 volumes but must be downloaded. 盒子里面是一大堆袋子、说明书和贴纸,这是我买过的第一个用硬卡纸跟说明书放一起的套装,我很欣赏这种做法因为它保持了说明书的完整,只有3本主造型说明书,跟绝大多数说明一样,他们被分成非常细致的步骤,有些步骤仅仅只是安装几个插稍而已,实际上就是一本书也可以搞定了。次造型说明书也是分成3部分,但必须到官网下载。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Now well look at the parts. The first picture shows all of them laid out on the table, partially sorted. The Power Functions parts consist only of an M motor and a battery box. The second image shows the large number of newer red panels. There are 6 large wide panels, 10 medium wide panels, and 2 medium narrow panels. The next image shows the liftarms, of which there are many. Most are either black or red. The parts for the seats and dash are dark gray. The frame is light gray. This would have been a nice time to start making this part in black, but no such luck. 现在来看零件,第一幅图全摆好在桌上了,部分还排好了,电机部分只有一个M马达和一个电池盒。第二张图是大量的新红色科技面板,有6个大面板、10个中面板和2个中型窄面板,第三张图是孔臂,好多,大部分是红与黑,零件和仪表板部分是深灰色的,框架是浅灰,如果这个零件是黑色的就好了,但运气不够好。:confused: 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Now lets see the special parts. The first image shows the collection of gears. Not as many as 8043, but quite a respectable quantity (note that I inadvertently left the 12 tooth bevel gears out of the picture). The 16 tooth spur gears are the new reinforced variety. The next image shows the expensive parts. There are 8 control arms (new narrower size), 4 of the wheel hubs, a differential, two transmission driving rings, 4 stiff shock absorbers, 6 steering links, 4 CV joints (dogbones), and 2 of the new CV sockets (the only new parts in the set). 看特殊零件,第一张图是齿轮,虽然没有8043的多,但仍然是相当不少的(我还不慎漏了一个12齿没拍到),其中16齿是新的强化版,第二张图是比较贵的零件, 8个控制臂(新的窄版), http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=57515 4个轮壳, http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=x873c01 1个差速器, http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=62821 2个变速传输环, http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=6539 4个强力避震器, http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=731c04 6个转向连接, http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=2739 4个等速接头(传动狗骨), http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=bb75 2个新的等速插座(Google叫球笼半轴,这个set里面的唯一的新零件)。 http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=92906 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Time to start building. The first image shows the beginning of the transmission, the heart of the car. The two parallel axles will be driven at the same rate by the motor, and the clutch gears will be used when engaged to drive the four motorized functions. Two non-motorized functions (engine and steering) will also pass through the same area, making this section very dense. The next two images shows the transmission installed in the beginnings of the chassis. The view from above shows the white clutch gear which protects the motor from stalling. It is driven directly by an 8 tooth pinion on the M motor. The long axle sticking out the front will go to the V-8 engine from the rear wheels. The last image shows a view from below. The gears you see are one level under the transmission. 开工,第一张图是换挡的搭建,整车的核心,2个平行的十字轴将被马达以相同的速率驱动,而各离合齿轮(之前提到的16齿,http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=6542)用于控制分别驱动4个电动功能,2个非电动功能(引擎和转向)也是通过这个区域的,所以这个区域非常的密集,接下来的两张图是换挡器安装在车辆底盘,从俯视图可以看到白色离合齿轮是用于保护马达的,它由马达上固定的的8齿齿轮直接驱动,而那条很长的十字轴是直接从后轮连接到V-8引擎,最后一张图是底部图,所看到的齿轮是在换挡器的下一级。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 This next image shows the rear axle and suspension assembly. It features independent suspension and a differential gear. The CV joint "dogbone" system is used here which allows the pivot points of the drive axle to be in the same plane as the suspension pivots, as it should be. This arrangement is exactly like the R/C cars and trucks that I build use The axle stub coming out the front will go to the engine. The following image shows the suspension assembly in the chassis along with the completed gearbox. 下一张图是后轮轴和悬挂的组装,包括两边轮子的独立悬挂和一个差速器,等速连接的狗骨系统(参见说明书1第59页)在这里用于使驱动轴的中心点和悬挂的中心点处于同一个水平面,这个设计就像我搭建的无线遥控车和卡车。突出来的十字轴末端将会连接到引擎。再下一张图是悬挂系统和之前的换挡器装在底盘上的样子。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 This next image shows the rear spoiler, the first mechanical function to be completed. A crank further forward uses a link to pull the spoiler which is on a 4 bar linkage. The next image shows the seats. There are a couple of things to notice here. The first is that the seats are truncated because the gearbox interferes with the inboard edges. The next is that the gearbox is not centered in the chassis; it is off by one stud. This means the attachments to the seats are not symmetric. 下一张图是后端扰流板,将被完成的第一个电机功能:在前部远端的一个曲臂拉起一个4杆结构件(参见说明书1第76页)。再下一张图是座位,有几个地方值得注意:首先,因为换挡器挡住的缘故,座位的一部分被截短了,其次,换挡器并不在底盘的正中间,而是偏了一个stud,所以座位并不对称。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片
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  • littleman 2011-3-1
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    Here is the front suspension assembly, also independent. The shocks and steering rack are not completed at this point. The next image is a closeup of the completed front of the gearbox. Many mechanical functions are visible here. 这是前轮悬挂系统,也是独立悬挂的,避震和转向在图中未完成。下一张图是换挡器完成后的近照,可以看到很多机动功能。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Even though LEGO instructions never put on the wheels until the end, I cant resist putting the rolling stock on a completed chassis, shown in the first image. Everything is functional at this point except that the doors and hood are not attached. The engine and steering work, as does the spoiler and the mechanisms for the doors and hood. The next image shows the body coming together. There are a lot of complex angles happening here, and most of them are NOT accomplished with angle connectors but rather pinned liftarms. 虽然乐高的说明书里面从来都是到最后才装上轮子,但底盘完成后,我还是忍不住给装上去了,看第一张图。现在所有东西都已经可动,只是车门和引擎盖还没装上去而已。引擎和转向都已经可以运作,扰流板和车门、前盖的机动功能也OK了,第二张图是组装车身,这里有很多复杂的角度,但并没有使用弯角连接器,而是用插稍连起来的孔臂。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 The model is now complete. This animation shows what a big difference in appearance there is with and without the panels installed. Note that there are no stickers applied at this point. I did apply them later, but I did not find that they added much since they are mostly solid red. 完成了,下面的动画可以看到面板安装前后的巨大变化,当时还没有贴贴纸。后来我贴了,但是我发现没太大变化因为贴纸本身也基本上是红色的 -_- 按此在新窗口浏览图片 OK, lets see the finished product. This is a VERY good looking car. The panels and flexible axles do an excellent job of contouring the car. The headlights and grille are a great touch. As Ive said before, the styling of this car with its enormous hood make it look like a Dodge Viper to me, though it should be a V-10 then. OK,来看一下成品,实在太太好看了:dribble: ,面板和软轴出色地勾勒出车形,车头灯和网罩让人很有感觉,就像我以前说的,庞大的引擎盖和车型让它看起来很像道奇毒蛇(Dodge Viper),只是那是V-10引擎。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Here are a top and bottom view. The myriad of functions is easy to see from the bottom. 这是俯视图和底盘图,从底部很容易可以看到大部分的运转机能。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片
  • littleman 2011-3-1
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    Lets take a closer look at the functions. The battery box and M motor power 4 functions through the central gearbox. The rear spoiler "hides" under the rear deck. As it deploys, it pushes the deck out of the way. The deck swivels on pins at the roof posts. It is an odd spoiler indeed being open in the middle and far too large in scale for the car. I think it has more in common with the air brake on the Veyron and McLaren than with a real spoiler. My guess is that they just needed something to use that 4th function for! The doors are scissors style. The pivot axle is at an angle to chassis, so they pivot not only upward but outward. This is accomplished through a 9L link on either side connected to ball joints. The hood pivots at the front to open. When down, it presses against the top of the engine. All 4 of these functions use worm gears which means not only are they geared down significantly, but they stay in place wherever positioned. 我们来看一下电机功能,电池盒和M马达通过中央的换挡箱输出4个功能,后端扰流板“隐藏”在后盖下,当扰流板运作的时候,会把后盖推开。这是一个怪异的扰流器,中间打开而且对车体来说太大了,我想在威龙和麦拿伦车队中空气制动器会比扰流器更常见,我猜猜猜,他们只是随便找个东西填满这4个功能:sure: !车门是剪刀型的,旋转轴和车身成一定角度,所以车门转起来的时候不仅向上而且也向外,由一个9长度连接器完成(32293,参见说明书2的17页),引擎盖以前端为轴旋转,所以关闭的时候会压在引擎上方,所有这4个功能都用到了蜗杆齿轮(4716),所以不仅运转时减速明显,而且不运转时能保持稳定。 Besides the motorized functions, this model also has everything else youd expect a supercar to have including 4 wheel double wishbone independent suspension, V-8 engine, differential, and steering. The HoG steering is at the back by the rear window instead of on the roof. 除了上面的电机功能,这款车有齐所有其他一台Supercar应该有的东西:四轮双叉骨、独立悬挂、V-8引擎、差速器和转向,“上帝之手”的转向轮在车尾窗而不是在车顶。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Im sure one of the questions everyone is asking is, "How does this hold up next to the supercars of the past?" The images below show them all together. The first 2 "auto chassis" on the left were primitive by modern standards, without even a body and without full suspension. Starting with the 8865 "Test Car", that changed. Most would consider either the 8880 or the 8448 the pinnacle of Technic cars, so how does the new one compare? Very well indeed. It has everything youd expect from the two older models including 4 wheel suspension, steering, and an engine. The 8880 had 4 wheel drive and 4 wheel steering, but that was more of a novelty than it was realistic. The big difference is in the switch from a transmission shifting gear ratios to a transmission shifting functions. Although the newer set may be less realistic in that regard, it is actually much more complicated. The older models took a single input (wheels) and converted to a single output (engine) at either 4 (8880) or 6 (8448) ratios. 8070 converts a single input (motor) to 4 outputs and must therefore contain the entire gear system required to distribute these functions to their remote locations. I think this was an excellent compromise of playability with realism. I cant really think of anything this car should have had that they skipped. 肯定所有人都会问:这款车凭什么跟它的Supercar前辈齐名而立?下面这张图中,他们都被放在一起了,左边的前2个“底盘车”已经落后于现代标准了,没车身甚至没悬挂,从8865“试驾车”开始才发生了改变。大部分人都认为8880或者8448是科技系列车型的顶峰,那这台新车比起来如何?确实不错,它有所有来自两位前辈的的特色包括4轮悬挂、转向和一个引擎,8880有4轮驱动和4轮转向,功能出色但显得标新立异多于真实。最大的不同是换挡箱从改变齿轮输出变成了功能切换,虽然看起来好像不那么贴近真实,但实际上更加复杂了,旧版用一个输入(轮子的推动)以4档(对于8880)或者6档(对于8448)转换到一个输出(引擎的运转),而8070是从1个输入(马达)到4个输出,而且包括了到达远端的整个齿轮传动系统。我认为这是兼顾了可玩性和真实性的一个出色的折中选择,我想不到还有些什么功能是这台车应该具备而他们(指lego)又漏了的。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Visually, this car has more in common with the Ferrari Racers models than it does with the older Supercars. 从外观看,这车跟法拉利跑车比跟其他Supercar还更相衬一些。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 按此在新窗口浏览图片
  • littleman 2011-3-1
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    The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly So whats the verdict? 优点、缺点、最差的地方 Good This is a great looking model with every function you could reasonably ask for. Here are some of the smaller details I really like: The CV joints. Visually, there is no reason these are needed at all. Mechanically, universal joints work perfectly well. But LEGO went the extra mile and developed a part many have been asking for which bumps up the realism of the driveline to a new level. The angles. Look closely at the car. Look how the doors are inset from the wheel arches which flare out at the front and back. Look how the doors taper up to the rear wheels. Look at the front bumper and the hood. After the chassis is done, there are very few right angles in this model, and that makes it realistic to look at and fun to build. The black stripe along the bottom. It didnt need to have one, but it does. I love it. The stickers. They are subtle and not too distracting. 优点: 这是一个外观出色的车型,具备所有应该具备的功能,我尤其喜欢其中一些细节: 等速接头(bb75): 从外观来看,根本可以没必要用这个,从机械角度说,通用接头(62520)也可以实现,但是lego“多做了一点点”(go the extra mile),开发了一个众望所归的新零件将传动系统的真实性提高到一个新的级数。 转角: 近距离观看车型,看嵌入在展开的轮拱中的车门,向后轮方向收窄,看前面的保险杠和引擎盖,当底盘刚刚完成时,还是几乎没有任何转角的,这让车型看起来更真实,搭建起来也更有趣。 车体底部的黑色条纹,是更进一步的锦上添花,I love it。 贴纸虽不易察觉但也不会引开视线分散注意。 Bad I must preface this section by saying that these are minor gripes. There is nothing wrong with this model, but these are things I might have done differently or trivial improvements which could be made. The lack of pole reverser. There REALLY needs to be a pole reverser. It is a royal pain to use the battery box switch to change motor direction because it never wants to stop in the middle. This is my only significant complaint. Easily remedied. The Power Functions: It didnt really need them. I would have preferred that the functions were operated via a manual crank resulting in a cheaper model, with the PF being an optional add-on. Compare this to models with linear actuators which really all should have a motor. This is an AFOL opinion though. Im sure the target demographic will love the motor. The black stripe along the bottom. Thats right, it was also in the good section. My only complaint here is that the stripe reaches all along the bottom of the car, but then mysteriously disappears at the corner of the front bumper, then reappears at the front of the bumper. The 1x3 liftarm at the corner should be black. Easily remedied. The stickers. Also a carry over from the good section. Some people hate stickers, and I dont think these were really needed, though they are well done. 缺点: 我要先声明,这只是一点小抱怨,这款车型设计其实没有什么大错,只是我可能会用不同的做法或者轻微改进一下。 没有反向开关。这实在太必要了,用电池盒的开关来控制反向运转简直痛苦,因为它不会在中间停下,这是我唯一的最大抱怨,当然要改进也不难。 电机:其实完全不需要。我会更乐意用手动摇杆来换取更便宜的售价,而电机只需要作为可选件,倒是使用线性螺旋杆的套装才更需要马达。当然,这只是一个乐高粉丝的意见,估计大部分的玩家还是喜欢有马达的。 底部的黑色条纹,对,没看错,这在优点里面也出现过,我唯一的不满是这条条纹一直在车体的底部,然后在前保险杠的转角处却神秘地消失,然后又在保险杠前端重新出现,那个1x3孔臂应该是黑色的,还是俺自己改吧。 贴纸,这在优点里面也是出现过,有人是不喜欢贴纸的,我也觉得这款里的贴纸完全可以不用,虽然它们也整得不错。 Ugly The back end. That battery box is an eyesore. I wish it had been hidden somehow, but Im sure this was a cost trade-off. It needed to be accessible to avoid needing a pole reverser. 最差的地方: 车的后面,电池盒实在太碍眼了,我宁愿把它藏起来,但我想这是一个基于成本的权衡,因为它可以节省一个反向开关。 按此在新窗口浏览图片 Theres no doubt that I have to recommend this model. It easily holds its own amongst the older cars, losing out only because it does not yet trigger any nostalgia. At the USA price, it is a great deal even for parts. Buy it. One last thing I wanted to mention is that I firmly believe that this model exists due to comments at this (and other) forums from AFOLs. Weve been saying for years that it has been too long since the last Supercar, and weve opined at length concerning what wed like to see in a new one. I think this model is for us. Thank you LEGO, for listening. You got it right. (Should have been blue though.) 毫无疑问,我大力推荐这款车型,它与旧款相比其实并不逊色,只是没有引起大家对昔日巅峰的怀念,对美金价来说,这些零件很不错了,收吧。 最后一提的是,我坚信这款车型的推出是乐高粉丝们努力的结果,上一台Supercar的推出已经是遥远的过去,而我们对新款的期待也已经讨论过很多了,所以我相信这款新车就是为我们而出的,感谢您的倾听,LEGO(只是我会更喜欢蓝色的,哈哈)。
  • littleman 2011-3-1
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    在乐乐镇发长帖真的累啊。。。我发现我现在不能删自己的贴了。。。faint:gogo: ,那这沙发我让不出来了 顺便在这里建议一下有兴趣练习英文的同学,可以去EB找些自己喜欢的set的评鉴来翻译一下,一来方便国内更多人了解乐高,二来练下英语,三来提高自己将来的评鉴水平,一举多得。
  • fayex 2011-3-1
    6
    评鉴好,翻译的也好。 更要赞这句 [QUOTE]今天在EB看到8070的评鉴,觉得很有深度,征得作者同意之后,抽空简单翻译了下。[/QUOTE]
  • littleman 2011-3-1
    7
    lego fans对转载评鉴一般都没什么所谓的,毕竟只是评鉴,不是创作,Blakbird的回复也是说随便转哪里都行。
  • 8
    内容很精彩,晚上看图o∩_∩o
  • avc02 2011-3-1
    9
    支持 鼓励 顶 很劝败
  • victor_zhu 2011-3-1
    10
    LZ辛苦了,不过俺对这种race car好像无爱,还是喜欢工程机械和越野车,呵呵
  • Jiney 2011-3-1
    11
    blakbird是所有technic都收,所有review都打高分的忠实technic粉.这款supercar和他的前辈真的差太多.8880/8466/8458/8674才是supercar的巅峰之作.他自己也说过最爱8880. So which one is the best? 8880, hands down. There is not really any question about it, so dont even bother arguing with me. 按现在的lego风格,旗舰要么电动,要么遥控,再出一台这样功能完整的supercar希望很渺茫了...
  • leinhardt 2011-3-1
    12
    翻译的太棒了,此款必入。
  • 冷枫晓月 2011-3-1
    13
    还好没中毒:cool:
  • ajdken 2011-3-1
    14
    很详细的评鉴啊,感谢L大分享,非常正点!尽管不如以前的某些,不过在日益高涨的成本面前,也算是一个折中的好作品了!
  • jerryyao 2011-3-1
    15
    120刀,对电机来说,鸡肋啊!!情愿不要电机的。。。。。
  • aircraft 2011-3-1
    16
    翻译的很好!今早在EB上看辛苦死了:p
  • 游客 2011-3-1
    17
    也是在EB上看过了,但还是要顶LZ:p
  • 土拨鼠 2011-3-1
    18
    喜欢科技!
  • mcgrady9001 2011-3-1
    19
    lz专业英文翻译 辛苦了
  • 真盖塔 2011-3-1
    20
    很好,文本量挺大的,辛苦!:D
  • 21
    [QUOTE][冷枫晓月]还好没中毒:cool:[/QUOTE]
    慢性的o∩_∩o
  • shallingxu 2011-3-1
    22
    非常棒,LZ幸苦了
  • jinqiu50 2011-3-1
    23
    楼主的翻译水平让人佩服,用词准确,优美,应该可以翻小说的。楼主辛苦了。
  • flexitime 2011-3-1
    24
    很好,十分好,看来要入一个,不知多少RMB?淘宝有没有?
  • littleman 2011-3-1
    25
    国外已经有了,等香港到货,国内很快也会有的了 多谢大家了,其实翻译本身倒不辛苦,空闲就翻一段,不知不觉就翻完了,不过为了照顾新人,零件编号和对应说明书页数是我自己查阅的,这里才最花时间。 以后工作有空闲我再多翻译一点,国外论坛除了精彩的评鉴外,还有很多牛人MOC的科技作品,我自己一边翻译一边也可以细细体会作者的思路,收益不少。
  • monday1127 2011-3-1
    26
    这贴我太爱了,方便观看,方便理解,在这里给littleman一个飞吻也不为过啊。 这车太爱了,AB都爱,钱包又要完蛋了:burn:
  • drsome 2011-3-2
    27
    littleman大翻的真好 本來偷懶用google翻譯中英文交叉看了一遍 來這邊一看發現還是漏了一些地方沒抓到原意 Blakbird的文章 配上大大的翻譯實在太完美 這篇小弟自己要收藏一下了 :p 談回這一組 從和Ferrari 1:9幾組相並列來說 8070外型真的不輸給前輩 電動的部份就真的感覺很雞肋 Blakbird提出的方式真的很合我的心 拿掉電動改成手動 也可以拿掉醜陋的電池盒 把車尾做個更好的修飾 這樣一來相信8070也會是房子內一個賞心悅目的端景 沒有switch開關不停上升下降的引擎蓋就不是太重要了
  • skywing 2011-3-2
    28
    如果没有电机,我就下手了:sweat: 现在觉得很鸡肋
  • lego4ever 2011-3-2
    29
    谢谢lz,辛苦了,不得不承认我中毒了
  • underredsky 2011-3-2
    30
    真是很不错的评鉴帖 印象很深的是“最大的不同是换挡箱从改变齿轮输出变成了功能切换,虽然看起来好像不那么贴近真实,但实际上更加复杂了,旧版用一个输入(轮子的推动)以4档(对于8880)或者6档(对于8448)转换到一个输出(引擎的运转),而8070是从1个输入(马达)到4个输出,而且包括了到达远端的整个齿轮传动系统。” 很感谢littleman老兄转帖并翻译 10金币奉上
  • season005 2011-3-2
    31
    其实我也觉得其实不需要配电机
  • 游客 2011-3-2
    32
    那就好好琢磨琢磨,自己搭个无马达的出来。:D
  • littleman 2011-3-5
    34
    今天看到香港已经到货了,估计价格稳定后折过来约800~900之间,同时太空的3365~3368也到了。
  • mting 2011-3-12
    35
    学习一下;)
  • dargen1949 2011-3-14
    36
    真是负责的lz,辛苦了:burn: :p
  • abczml 2011-3-18
    37
    值得收一个吗
  • 游客 2011-3-21
    38
    好漂亮的东西啊
  • rainmanfu 2011-5-1
    39
    记号,好东西.
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